Showing posts with label Wayfair. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Wayfair. Show all posts

Friday, August 17, 2018

Service Sales and Wayfair

I was chatting with a new acquaintance who was a headhunter based in Chicago.  When he asked what I did for a living, I said that I did training on sales and use taxes.  I fully expected the conversation to come to a full stop at that point, as it usually does.  Nobody knows what to say when I mention I talk about sales tax for a living.

But not this time.  He said, "Yeah, I heard something about this...a big Supreme Court decision, right?"

I brightened. "Yep, it's a pretty big topic in my world right now."  At least it's more exciting than sales tax holidays and local rate increases.

As the conversation veered into what HE did for a living, I felt the need to expound upon the potential exposure he had (this is why I don't have any friends).  "Just out of curiosity, do you do any work in Pennsylvania?"

"Yep, I have a couple of really good clients there.  Why, do you know anyone who's looking?"  At least we had in common the fact that we were always working.

"Did you know that headhunting (employment agency) services are taxable in Pennsylvania?"

"What are you talking about?  It's a service.  Services aren't taxable."  He's from Illinois so he's allowed this bit of naiveté.  

"They are in a couple of states - including Pennsylvania."

"Yeah, but I'm in Chicago.  I never even go to Pennsylvania...I do everything by phone."

"Yeah, but the services are being received in Pennsylvania.  And with that new Supreme Court decision, they can go after you, even if you've never set foot in PA.  How much do you bill to PA in a year?"  By the way, cool people just say PA instead of all those syllables.

He kind of looked off into space, "Oh, at least $200,000."  

"Yep, you should be worrying."

Again, no friends.

People who sell services almost never realize that the services might be taxable somewhere.  In the past, that probably didn't make any difference because of the Quill rule about physical presence. My new friend never visited PA and had no physical presence there.  Therefore, no problem.
 
But in a post-Wayfair world, the physical presence hurdle has disappeared.  Now it's just a question of volume of sales.  So if a service provider does enough business in the state, he is probably going to be liable for taxes.

Three pieces of advice that apply to everyone, but to service providers in particular:

1.  List the states in which you sell more than, oh, say $100,000 per year, or make 200 transactions per year (these are the Wayfair thresholds which may or may not be the minimums*).  I hope your accounting system can provide this information.  Otherwise, find a temp to do some serious spreadsheeting (that temp might be taxable too!).

2. Is what you sell taxable in those states?  This is a different type of research.  Use whatever research tools you have available.  

3. If the result is that your sales in a state exceeds those thresholds, contact your friendly sales tax professional.  Then, based on her advice, panic.

*Most states seem to be gravitating towards these numbers.  But not all of them. 

Jim Frazier - The Sales Tax Guy
http://salestaxguy.blogspot.com

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Wednesday, July 18, 2018

Safe Harbor Thresholds? - Yeah, we got yer thresholds right here. And they're just like South Dakota's!

 

States are treating the safe harbor thresholds from Wayfair as the only thing they have to worry about.

They figure if they say that $100,000 in sales or 200 invoiced sales per year is what gives you economic nexus, than they're good.  They're ignoring all of the other stuff about South Dakota's tax system that the Supreme Court seemed to really like.  Things like state administration, simple tax base, simple rates, and belonging to the Streamlined Sales Tax Project. You know, stuff that makes it simpler.

So it's going to be interesting when states like Louisiana, which is pretty much the exact opposite of South Dakota in terms of the simplicity, think they can just impose economic nexus, use the Wayfair thresholds, and they'll be cool.

Do these people read?  Like, the Supreme Court decision?  Or any of the countless articles that have been published on this?

And when the first court shuts them down, you know they're going to get all huffy.

Jim Frazier - The Sales Tax Guy
http://salestaxguy.blogspot.com

See the disclaimer on the right.